[F] Unknown MP4 atoms are deleted on save, was: MP4 Tags destroyed!!! :( Options

[edrikk]

Hi Florian,

I hope you enjoyed your vacation, and am sorry to be PMing you... But I'm facing somewhat of a big issue...

It appears that the following Apple MP4 tags are not seen in MP3Tag (even in extended dialog), and if any changes are made to the MP4 file (even if just clicking "save"), the tags are destroyed!

I have attached an MP4 sample that contains the tags.

rate -->> Rating between 0 and 100 as a text
hdvd -->> HD Video 8-bit integer (boolean)
cnID -->> iTunes Catalog ID, used for combing SD and HD encodes in iTunes 32-bit integer
keyw -->> Keywords Used for Podcasts UTF-8 string

DLNA servers such as Twonky for example, use the "rate" atom to group content.


If you could PLEASE allow us to WRITE the above tags in mp3tag as well it would be great/a life saver... I have half of these files backed-up so I'm not completely up the creek, but I still do need to run the files through mp3tag to modify their value.
And this will allow me manually re-enter the lost ones...





Source of information behind the atoms:
code.google.com/p/mp4v2/wiki/iTunesMetadata



Does this problem exist with all tags that MP3Tag doesn't recognize? Would the standard tags found in the attached PDF (Apple's spec for tags) also be deleted?

You can find the entire spec here: http://www.twonkyforum.com/download/file.php?id=554




Thanks for your help in this Florian... It's truly appreciated!


EDIT: This is using the latest 2.46a version.

This post has been edited by edrikk: Aug 12 2010, 16:35

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[edrikk]

Hi,

The problem is still there with version 2.46b.

[mrgou]

The problem is still there with version 2.46b.

Yes. Same issue occurs with the CDEC tag added by Nero, see here.

It was classified as fixed, but it's not.

[edrikk]

Yes. Same issue occurs with the CDEC tag added by Nero, see here.

It was classified as fixed, but it's not.

Can a moderator please add the [C] (confirmed) or [AF] (awaiting feedback) tag to this thread?

Thanks!

[edrikk]

Is Florian okay?
It's been a month for most items in the bugs forum, and no responses...

I'm waiting with baited breath to fix my files.

[Florian]

I'm alive

However, I have a lot to do in my real life, so free time for Mp3tag is currently limited. Stay tuned

[edrikk]

Hi Florian,

Thanks for adding:

# NEW: MP4 fields ITUNESCATALOGID and ITUNESHDVIDEO.

in Version 2.46c.



However, This version still doesn't show the "rate" atom (even in the Extended Dialog), and STILL deletes the atom if you "Save" within mp3tag.


Can you please fix this issue, and allow the ability to write it as well so that I can fix my files?


UPDATE:
If you set the ITUNESHDVIDEO to 0 (zero) and save, the value is saved to the file. Refresh mp3tag (or close mp3tag and add the file again), and open the extended tag dialog, and the tag is not there (even though it WAS written to the file).

If you save the file, the hdvd atom is deleted.


There is something very wrong with mp3tag's behavior of mp4 tags.

This post has been edited by edrikk: Sep 25 2010, 23:19

[edrikk]

Hi Florian,

Thanks for adding:

# NEW: MP4 fields ITUNESCATALOGID and ITUNESHDVIDEO.

in Version 2.46c.



However, This version still doesn't show the "rate" atom (even in the Extended Dialog), and STILL deletes the atom if you "Save" within mp3tag.


Can you please fix this issue, and allow the ability to write it as well so that I can fix my files?


UPDATE:
If you set the ITUNESHDVIDEO to 0 (zero) and save, the value is saved to the file. Refresh mp3tag (or close mp3tag and add the file again), and open the extended tag dialog, and the tag is not there (even though it WAS written to the file).

If you save the file, the hdvd atom is deleted.


There is something very wrong with mp3tag's behavior of mp4 tags.

One more month passes... One more version passes: Version 2.46d

Behavior is EXACTLY the same as what I described in the above post. Both in terms of "rate" atom, as well as the ITUNESHDVIDEO issue when set to 0.

sigh.

[dano]

What do you need ITUNESHDVIDEO=0 for?
Isn't it the same as a missing ITUNESHDVIDEO tag?

[edrikk]

What do you need ITUNESHDVIDEO=0 for?
Isn't it the same as a missing ITUNESHDVIDEO tag?

Hi Dano,

It's a bigger issue than just that I'm afraid... For example see the post higher up, noting that CDEC is deleted...

Another example is the "rate" box... There appears to be an issue where MP3Tag does not read "unknown" first level atoms (read: not itunes styles). This means that if you open the file containing such as tag, and save it, the unread tags are destroyed.

This ITUNESHDVIDEO issue appears to be a play on the above, as MP3Tag *does* write the "0" value to the file (as shown by mediainfo), however, if you close and re-open MP3Tag, the tag is NOT visible within mp3tag, and saving the file does not write the tag back (as again, checked by mediainfo).


(Note, when I say visible, I mean even within the "Extended Tags" dialog).


I lost hundreds of my "rate" tag due to this bug, and I've been begging Florian to allow that tag to be written so that I can automate it... I'm afraid nothing yet. :/

This post has been edited by edrikk: Oct 29 2010, 20:36

[dano]

I know all the issues, my question was only what's the use of ITUNESHDVIDEO=0

[edrikk]

I know all the issues, my question was only what's the use of ITUNESHDVIDEO=0

For that specific case, no difference. Just stating the issue.

[edrikk]

Bump.
Still an issue with "e" version.

[edrikk]

Bump, as the issue is still present in 2.48.

Tags that are not recognized by MP3Tag are destroyed upon a save (also see this reported here: http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=11338)


Also, Florian, can you please add first level atom "rate" mp4 (similar to cprt atom) to allow me to reverse the damage cause by the destruction of the tag? I've been waiting 6 months to fix my files.

This post has been edited by edrikk: Jan 26 2011, 03:01

[MrSinatra]

Also, Florian, can you please add first level atom "rate" mp4 (similar to cprt atom) to allow me to reverse the damage cause by the destruction of the tag?

what is cprt?

what app is allowing you to write ratings to mp4? itunes unwisely doesn't seem to support writing ratings to tags. i am trying to get winamp to do this for mp4, so as much info about "rate" and cprt and apps that support them like twonky would be appreciated.