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BOSS TAGGER
post May 16 2012, 01:29
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I'm trying to put a number of SONGS in an ALBUM, so it shows up that way in my phone, and I have no idea why, even though I've given all the appropriate songs the same ALBUM NAME, it is not working.

I'm sure it is simple. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

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post May 16 2012, 03:00
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QUOTE (BOSS TAGGER @ May 16 2012, 01:29) *
I'm trying to put a number of SONGS in an ALBUM, so it shows up that way in my phone, and I have no idea why, even though I've given all the appropriate songs the same ALBUM NAME, it is not working.

I'm sure it is simple. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks.

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Depends on what brand your phone is. Make sure on the phone brands website/forum that it is the FILENAME that sorts them, if so then you might have to put ALBUMARTIST and/or ALBUM ARTIST (notice the space) to 'VA' and maybe even COMPILATION to the value '1' for your phone to recognise the order of the songs.

Keep the ARTIST as is.

Try that and see how it works


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post May 16 2012, 03:20
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QUOTE (stevehero @ May 16 2012, 03:00) *
Depends on what brand your phone is. Make sure on the phone brands website/forum that it is the FILENAME that sorts them, if so then you might have to put ALBUMARTIST and/or ALBUM ARTIST (notice the space) to 'VA' and maybe even COMPILATION to the value '1' for your phone to recognise the order of the songs.

Keep the ARTIST as is.

Try that and see how it works


I'm using a LG RUMOUR TOUCH. When I downloaded an album form a FILE SHARING site and transferred it to my phone, all the songs showed up in an ALBUM as well as on the ALL SONG list.

I'm trying to see what they did differently but I haven't figured it out.

I'm lost here about the VA and compilation value. Where do you do that?

Thanks

NORM

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post May 16 2012, 03:47
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QUOTE (BOSS TAGGER @ May 16 2012, 03:20) *
I'm using a LG RUMOUR TOUCH. When I downloaded an album form a FILE SHARING site and transferred it to my phone, all the songs showed up in an ALBUM as well as on the ALL SONG list.

I'm trying to see what they did differently but I haven't figured it out.

I'm lost here about the VA and compilation value. Where do you do that?

Thanks

NORM

I don't think talking about file sharing on here is appropriate.

Anyway.

SOLUTION
Select your problem album
Press Alt+T
Click Add field...

Type COMPILATION
Enter in the box below the value '1'
Hit OK

Type ALBUMARTIST
Enter in the box below the value 'VA'
Hit OK

Type ALBUM ARTIST
Enter in the box below the value 'VA'
Hit OK

Try that.


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post May 16 2012, 07:38
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QUOTE (stevehero @ May 16 2012, 03:47) *
I don't think talking about file sharing on here is appropriate.

Anyway.

SOLUTION
Select your problem album
Press Alt+T
Click Add field...

Type COMPILATION
Enter in the box below the value '1'
Hit OK

Type ALBUMARTIST
Enter in the box below the value 'VA'
Hit OK

Type ALBUM ARTIST
Enter in the box below the value 'VA'
Hit OK

Try that.



1) It was a non-commercial album offered for FREE so that is not an issue (spent 30 years in Business/Legal Affairs in the Entertainment Industry).

2) I assume I was adding three different fields with the info you suggested, but it didn't work.

What is interesting is there is one set of FOUR songs numbered 1-4 that came up as an album with the title "OTHER" and I have no idea how that happened.

Thanks.

NDG
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post May 16 2012, 07:55
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For a proper album you have to fill the following fields each with identical values:
ALBUM
ALBUMARTIST
(and if you have used it: YEAR)
empty fields will lead to unpredictable results.


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post May 16 2012, 16:30
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QUOTE (ohrenkino @ May 16 2012, 07:55) *
For a proper album you have to fill the following fields each with identical values:
ALBUM
ALBUMARTIST
(and if you have used it: YEAR)
empty fields will lead to unpredictable results.


Please see attached PHOTO. Am I missing something as it didn't work.

THANKS.
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post May 16 2012, 17:42
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ZITAT(BOSS TAGGER @ May 16 2012, 17:30) *
Please see attached PHOTO. Am I missing something as it didn't work.

THANKS.

The "extended tags" in your dump do not show the field TITLE. TITLE should be filled as well.


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post May 17 2012, 06:08
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QUOTE (ohrenkino @ May 16 2012, 18:42) *
The "extended tags" in your dump do not show the field TITLE. TITLE should be filled as well.



IT'S MIDNIGHT here in Los Angeles and I'm quitting for the day?

BUT: I have had much success.

Starting with files I have NOT tried to make into albums, I added all the info in the fields and did a CONVERT TAG - FILENAME and it worked!

I REMOVED all the tags from a set of 19 titles, re-insterted all the information, but came up with 19 different ALBUMS.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

Thanks for the support!

NDG

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post May 17 2012, 08:14
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QUOTE (BOSS TAGGER @ May 17 2012, 07:08) *
I'm really trying here but still not happening. NDG

Well, I do not have any practical experiences with such nerve-slayers like the "LG Rumor Touch", but I downloaded the documents "UN510 Rumor Touch Datasheet.pdf" and "UN510 Rumor Touch UG.pdf" from the vendor's support webpage and start reading.

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• Music Player (supports MP3, AAC, AAC+, & MP4A)
• Create & Manage Playlists
• Music Library - organized by artist, album, genre & playlists
From the Player display, select an option:
- Playlists to select or create a customized playlist you’ve created to organize your music.
- Artists to filter the list of available music by their Artist information.
- All Songs to browse through all of your downloaded music, including ... any additional songs you have loaded onto your microSD card from your computer.
- Albums to filter the list of available music by their Album information.
- Genres to filter the list of available music by their Genre information.
Once you’ve displayed a list of songs, you can browse through your available titles by Song, Artist, or Genre to select a specific song.

There is nothing said about what ID3 version is supported by the player.
But the given small list of tag-field names leads to the assumption, that basically ID3v1 tag-fields are supported.

So give this a try.
- Use a small set of test files!!!
- Setup Mp3tag to read and write write only ID3v1 tags.
- Setup Mp3tag to remove all other ID3 and APE tag versions.
- Fill the ID3v1 tag-fields TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM, GENRE, TRACK with appropriate data.
- Check the behaviour of the test files with the player.

Come back and report.

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post May 17 2012, 08:16
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Just saw your post but it is 12:15am and I need to go to sleep. Will get back to you soon.

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post May 23 2012, 16:55
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QUOTE (DetlevD @ May 17 2012, 08:14) *
Well, I do not have any practical experiences with such nerve-slayers like the "LG Rumor Touch", but I downloaded the documents "UN510 Rumor Touch Datasheet.pdf" and "UN510 Rumor Touch UG.pdf" from the vendor's support webpage and start reading.


There is nothing said about what ID3 version is supported by the player.
But the given small list of tag-field names leads to the assumption, that basically ID3v1 tag-fields are supported.

So give this a try.
- Use a small set of test files!!!
- Setup Mp3tag to read and write write only ID3v1 tags.
- Setup Mp3tag to remove all other ID3 and APE tag versions.
- Fill the ID3v1 tag-fields TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM, GENRE, TRACK with appropriate data.
- Check the behaviour of the test files with the player.

Come back and report.

Tried that again, didn't help, artwork wouldn't show up!

DD.20120517.0914.CEST

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post May 23 2012, 17:55
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If your player only knows V1 tags then you won't see any artwork as this is not part of the V1 tag standard. What about the other issues like albums and stuff?


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post May 23 2012, 18:40
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QUOTE (BOSS TAGGER @ May 23 2012, 17:55) *
Tried that again, didn't help, artwork wouldn't show up!

Your description of the test result sounds as you have managed to fill the one and only ID3v1 tag with tag-fields TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM, GENRE, TRACK with appropriate data without problems.
Does the player handle and display such files correctly?

Basically artwork cannot be involved, because ID3v1 does not support embedded artwork.
It seems so, that the LG Rumor Touch player supports only the ID3v1 tag.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3

DD.20120523.1940.CEST


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post May 23 2012, 20:09
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QUOTE (DetlevD @ May 23 2012, 18:40) *
Your description of the test result sounds as you have managed to fill the one and only ID3v1 tag with tag-fields TITLE, ARTIST, ALBUM, GENRE, TRACK with appropriate data without problems.
Does the player handle and display such files correctly?

Basically artwork cannot be involved, because ID3v1 does not support embedded artwork.
It seems so, that the LG Rumor Touch player supports only the ID3v1 tag.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3

DD.20120523.1940.CEST



First off: THANK YOU THANK YOU for ALL your attempts to help me solve this issue!

My work-around has been to create playlists. These are songs/programs I listen to and then delete (BBC Radio 2, a lot, as well as streaming).

To make it easy, here is a summary of where I'm at:

I tried using only ID3v1 tag and that was a mistake as, was stated, the art work doesn't show up, so I restored the defaults to recognize everything.

I noticed when I put a LED ZEPPLEIN album on the phone (see pic), it included all the variables and shows up as an ALBUM - perfectly.

I only seem to have this issue with ALBUMS I'm creating with MORE than four songs. All the ALBUMS I've created with four songs or less show up as ONE ALBUM, not an ALBUM for each song.

Thanks again.

P.S. I'm still waiting to hear again from LG!

And: I still don't understand WHY if I remove the TAGs, the albums don't disappear.
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