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Pete Z
post Aug 29 2017, 02:36
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any ideas how to distinquish between were and we're?
Any rules appreciated.
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post Aug 29 2017, 10:42
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Aug 29 2017, 03:36) *
any ideas how to distinquish between were and we're? Any rules appreciated.

"Were" is the past tense of the stative verb "be".
It is used with the pronouns "we", "they", and "you".
You were off to the beach.
We were happy to be there.
They were happy to be there.

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"We're" is a contraction of the phrase "we are": the apostrophe stands for the omitted letter A. "Were" is simply a plural past-tense form of the verb "are." To talk about something happening now or in the future, use "we're," but to talk about something in the past, use "were." If you can't substitute "we are" for the word you've written, omit the apostrophe.

"We were going to go to the party as a prince and princess, but Derek cut himself shaving, so we're going instead as a vampire and her victim."

https://webapps.towson.edu/ows/were_where_we're.htm
https://brians.wsu.edu/category/common-error/
text only ... https://s3.wp.wsu.edu/uploads/sites/1350/20...5/errorsRTF.txt

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Pete Z
post Aug 31 2017, 00:33
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sorry i mean how can i get mp3tag to fix the spelling in mp3 names for were and we're. Is there a rule I can add to mp3tag??
Sorry for the confusion.

I also posted this in wrong section!!
Pls fix admins if poss.

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post Aug 31 2017, 06:14
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Aug 31 2017, 01:33) *
sorry i mean how can i get mp3tag to fix the spelling in mp3 names for were and we're. Is there a rule I can add to mp3tag??
Sorry for the confusion.

I also posted this in wrong section!!
Pls fix admins if poss.

How is MP3tag to know which language is used for the tag data?
And no: there is no rule, but I am sure that you can think of an easy way to replace it like
all "were" to "we're" and then the "you we're" to "you were" etc. Should leave all the real "we're" as remainders.

Please note that there are several other constructions that could be just as wrong:

we're - were - where
They're - their - there
You're - your

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Pete Z
post Aug 31 2017, 06:27
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wow didn't think there were others too. Dosn't it annoy others out there. I want the spelling/context to be correct. Why doesn't mp3tag have these rules built in as default?
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post Aug 31 2017, 06:46
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Aug 31 2017, 07:27) *
wow didn't think there were others too. Dosn't it annoy others out there. I want the spelling/context to be correct. Why doesn't mp3tag have these rules built in as default?

there are more languages out there than just English.
Mp3tag has a modular approach so that you can create your own actions to meet your needs.
Feel free to share them here in the forum - perhaps they become standard and a built-in feature.

Your claim to get the spelling correct actually collides with the artist's freedom to use a grammar and spelling of their liking. Some examples:

Slade: "Cum on feel the noiz" or "Mama Weer All Crazee Now"
Prince: "Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad" or "Gotta Stop - Messin' About" or "Feel U Up"
Pink: "U + Ur Hand" or "'Cuz I Can"
2Pac: "Ratha Be Ya Nigga" or "What'z Ya Phone #"
Princess: "Say I'm Ur N° 1"

And so on and so forth.


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Pete Z
post Aug 31 2017, 06:54
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mmmm good argument there.
So are you saying you dont use any mp3tag actions (Is that what they are called?) and that you just leave "were" as they are like this for example..

those we're the days

which is wrong.
I don't think in that case the artist intended it that way!
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post Aug 31 2017, 07:06
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Aug 31 2017, 07:54) *
mmmm good argument there.
So are you saying you dont use any mp3tag actions (Is that what they are called?) and that you just leave "were" as they are like this for example..

those we're the days

which is wrong.
I don't think in that case the artist intended it that way!

No, I did not say anything about not to use actions.
On the contrary: if you find actions useful to achieve your goal you may as well share them here on the forum for others to participate.

I just say: you cannot let loose an action to modify any text. Just another (constructed) example:
What about a title like

Where were the monkeys
vs.
Where we're the monkeys

Both correct but which is the intended one?
I do not doubt that there are a lot of spelling mistakes in tags ... but please: English is not the only language so why create a built-in function only for that kind of text?
Mp3tag with German origin does not even have a decent case correction mechanism to get the German cases correct with capitals for nouns and names ... so why should it take care of bad spelling in other languages.

No, in that respect MP3tag is absolutely impartial: MP3tag has so many flexible interfaces so that you can get a spelling correction, e.g.:
create an export of the relevant tag fields, have it checked with the spellchecker of any odd word processor, re-import the corrected tag data into the files.

I already mentioned the actions.
And you can assemble a collection of filters to group the files with the most common mis-spellings together like "dont" vs. "don't" etc.

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post Aug 31 2017, 08:25
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Aug 31 2017, 01:33) *
... Is there a rule I can add to mp3tag? ...

TEST_OUTPUT <== $regexp(%TEST_INPUT%,'\b((y|Y)ou|(w|W)e|(t|T)hey)((’|'''')re)\b','$1 are')

TEST_INPUT:
you're
we're
they're
You're
We're
They're

TEST_INPUT:
you’re
we’re
they’re
You’re
We’re
They’re

TEST_OUTPUT:
you are
we are
they are
You are
We are
They are



... or ...

TEST_OUTPUT <== $replace(%TEST_INPUT%,
'you''''re','you are','we''''re','we are','they''''re','they are',
'You''''re','You are','We''''re','We are','They''''re','They are',
'you’re','you are','we’re','we are','they’re','they are',
'You’re','You are','We’re','We are','They’re','They are')


DD.20170831.0925.CEST, DD.20170831.1532.CEST, DD.20170901.1212.CEST

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post Aug 31 2017, 08:42
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@Pete Z:
Which apostrophe do you use between we and re in we’re? I hope the typographically-correct punctuation according to the Unicode Standard? wink.gif
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2019 ’ RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
= single comma quotation mark, this is the preferred character to use for apostrophe

or do you use
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0027 ' APOSTROPHE
= neutral (vertical) glyph with mixed usage
(The wrong character most people can reach directly on the keyboard)

You see, it’s nearly impossible for a software like Mp3tag to offer THE correct rule set, especially if it should be valid for every language.

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post Sep 1 2017, 00:17
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yes i do use the wrong ' and am aware. The right one should be more accessable on the keyboard imo.

Re this
Where were the monkeys
vs.
Where we're the monkeys

The second one infers "Where we are the monkeys" so its completely wrong. No?

So in summary there is no real way to auto correct these types of words with a rule just in English?
:-(
If there is and someone can add it here that would be very helpful for me

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post Sep 1 2017, 07:13
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Sep 1 2017, 01:17) *
...So in summary there is no real way to auto correct these types of words with a rule just in English?
...

I think that DetlevD has provided at least one attempt in this post:
https://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?s=&s...ost&p=98454

Your original question was: why isn't it a built-in function? And in this respect the answer has been provided, supported by a number of examples, that the idea of auto correction will most likely cause more damage than do good.
If you want to implement something like that in your workflow, you are free to do so.


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Pete Z
post Sep 1 2017, 07:32
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appreciate the help from DetlevD but that will really change things drastically for song titles so not for me. Appreciate the help everyone. Sounds like not a simple one so will just have to live with it.
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post Sep 1 2017, 10:35
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QUOTE (Pete Z @ Sep 1 2017, 08:32) *
... that will really change things drastically for song titles ...

Huh? Please give some drastic examples.

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post Sep 1 2017, 13:23
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for eg
Travolta - You're the one that I want
would become
Travolta - You are the one that I want

and to me that is a drastic change to the charactor or interpretation of the song title.
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